[LCC] rig preferences

[Steve Lott]

True,  I guess

But I can always dream of being a real super station owner such as W5SMU,
K1TTT etc

And of course I was once an op with only a wire and 90 watts
it was a goal to be at least where I am now (in the sticks surounded by more
than a few of my own towers)

cheers !

steve

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Marshall Stewart <marsh at ka5m.net> wrote:

>  Any station with a 20M monobander at 90 feet and a full size (no loading
> coils, capacitance hats, or linear loading) 3-element 40M monobander, and an
> 80M 4-square vertical array has an antenna farm somewhat above “meager”, at
> least in my opinion.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Marsh, KA5M
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* lcc-bounces at louisianacontestclub.org [mailto:
> lcc-bounces at louisianacontestclub.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Lott
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 4:41 PM
> *To:* Dan Edward Dba East edwards
> *Cc:* lcc at louisianacontestclub.org; Keith
> *Subject:* Re: [LCC] rig preferences
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> I strongly agree that SDR technology is the future
>
> and that is the single reason why I am leaning towards a K3 in my future
>
> (because of it's design around or rather embracement of SDR)
>
>
>
> Mean while I'll continue with my 1kMP's and multiple antenna choices
>
> on my meager antenna farm
>
>
>
> cheers !
>
>
>
> steve
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Dan Edward Dba East edwards <
> dan.n.edwards at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> ( i changed the subject line, if you guys dont mind )
>
>
>
> i chose the flex3000 because it comes with all the roofing filters a guy
> will
>
> ever need. NONE !! ( full SDR/DSP rigs convert rf straight to audio,
> virtually )
>
> instead, you use RAM, L-2 Cache, & processor power....and some great
>
> software.
>
>
>
> and because my old ft-107's were dying. and the F3k rates pretty high for
> less
>
> money, especially used, than the other top performers on Sherwoods site.
>
>
>
> and, i had fooled with a soft rock IF on my FT-107 and saw what a REAL
> panadapter
>
> looks like. it spoils you REAL fast. K5LC was nice enough to loan me his
> Pro 2
>
> for cw SS last year, but it was too late. no comparison on the panadapters.
> but you DO have to have a better-than-average PC, i admit...which is not
> free..
>
>
>
> i'm probably out in left field (again), as there seem to be NO top
> finishers using
>
> flex radios, YET....so are you a leader or a follower ??
>
>
>
> we flexers DO have our growing pains....ok, i'll be quiet..
>
>
>
> except: money spent on towers, antennas, feedlines, and rotators, IF you
> can
>
> put them up, pays back fast, and big time...
>
>
>
> 73 all, w5xz, dan
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 7/16/10, Steve Lott <lottsphoto at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve Lott <lottsphoto at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LCC] low band antenna experience
> To: "Keith" <Keith at nelasat.com>
> Cc: lcc at louisianacontestclub.org
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 10:26 AM
>
> My point of view is Yes the K3 is the state of art radio
>
>
>
> The FT-1000MP is not that far down in performance
>
>
>
> The cost to benifit ratio for many, including my self is currently
>
> placing the FT-10000MP as the radio of choice (esp since any change would
> be adding Two K3's)
>
>
>
> The small performance difference between a K3 and an FT-1000MP
>
> can be easily made up by a skilled op and while the Radio Sport teams were
> restricted to use of the antennas provided
>
> most ops can increase their station performance thru better antennas, than
> they can thru purchase of the latest and greatest rig.
>
>
>
> The Top performing rigs are so close together that most amateurs will not
> benifit greatly enough to justify
>
> throwing money at a new rig
>
>
>
> That said,  yes there is a K3 in my future just not right now
>
> My priorities are.......
>
>
>
> *   better receive antenna performance
>
> *   a log periodic  (possibly a summer)
>
> *   increasing the height of two of my current towers
>
> *   continued maintenance on my current antenna farm
>
>
>
> cheers !
>
>
>
> Steve
> KG5VK
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Keith <Keith at nelasat.com<http://mc/compose?to=Keith@nelasat.com>>
> wrote:
>
> *Just think of what their scores would have been if they had K3's!!!!*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Keith, K5ENS*
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Marshall Stewart <http://mc/compose?to=marsh@ka5m.net>
>
> *To:* 'Keith' <http://mc/compose?to=Keith@nelasat.com> ;
> lcc at louisianacontestclub.org<http://mc/compose?to=lcc@louisianacontestclub.org>
>
> *Cc:* lottsphoto at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=lottsphoto@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 9:20 AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [LCC] low band antenna experience
>
>
>
> My point was simple too.  “The reviews state….” describes the use of K3s by
> a majority of participants in the WRTC2010 competition.  The rest of the
> story is that 3 of the 5 top WRTC2010 teams used FT-1000MPs.
>
>
>
> Marsh, KA5M
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Keith [mailto:Keith at nelasat.com<http://mc/compose?to=Keith@nelasat.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 7:19 AM
> *To:* Marshall Stewart
> *Cc:* lottsphoto at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=lottsphoto@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LCC] low band antenna experience
>
>
>
> *My point to Mark using Icom 756 Pro II's was simple.  Your antenna system
> only gets you so far. Admittedly a long way. The Elecraft K3 is a great
> radio for pulling out weak signals or signals that are near the noise level
> or close in working with crowded bands during contests.  You need a great
> receiver to do that and the K3 has one of the best.*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Keith, K5ENS*
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Marshall Stewart <http://mc/compose?to=marsh@ka5m.net>
>
> *To:* 'Keith' <http://mc/compose?to=Keith@nelasat.com> ;
> lcc at louisianacontestclub.org<http://mc/compose?to=lcc@louisianacontestclub.org>
>
> *Cc:* Steve Smith KG5VK <http://mc/compose?to=lottsphoto@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:09 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [LCC] low band antenna experience
>
>
>
> Or, you could use an FT-1000MP like the 1st and 2nd place team used….
>
>
> *It's all down to your ears<http://blog.g4ilo.com/2010/07/its-all-down-to-your-ears.html>
> *
>
> via G4ILO's Blog <http://blog.g4ilo.com/> by Julian on 7/15/10
>
>
> There was a lot of excitement on the Elecraft email reflector over the fact
> that the majority of participants in the World Radio Team Championship 2010
> (WRTC 2010) were using Elecraft K3s. There was even more glee when it was
> discovered that Scott Robbins W4PA, former Ten-Tec product manager, and Tim
> Duffy K3LR of Team Icom had taken K3s. This was like the President of Coca
> Cola serving Pepsi at his anniversary party!
>
>
> <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yDaKhJLpQjc/TD7fgu4toWI/AAAAAAAAAXI/mYFYsAGTW0M/s1600/ft-1000mp.jpg>There
> have not been many comments now the results are out<http://www.wrtc2010.ru/result_table.php>,
> which show that the top two teams, from Russia and Estonia respectively,
> were using FT-1000MPs. The USA team of N6MJ and KL9A in third place used
> K3s, as did K5ZD and W2SC who came fifth, but the fourth placed S50A and
> S57AW again used FT-1000MPs as did the Lithuanian entry in seventh place.
>
> So let's get this straight: the winning stations and several others in the
> top ten used a now obsolete radio that was introduced in 1996 which has
> frequently been criticized as inferior to the K3? I suspect the fact that
> many international competitors took K3s may have more to do with the fact
> that the Elecraft radio is small enough and light enough to be taken on an
> aircraft as hand baggage. And I suspect that the reason for the success of
> the stations using FT-1000MPs is that there is more to winning a contest
> than having a receiver with the best performance numbers.
>
> Anyone want to swap an Elecraft K3 for an FT-1000MP? (Only joking.)
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* lcc-bounces at louisianacontestclub.org<http://mc/compose?to=lcc-bounces@louisianacontestclub.org>[mailto:
> lcc-bounces at louisianacontestclub.org<http://mc/compose?to=lcc-bounces@louisianacontestclub.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Keith
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:20 PM
> *To:* lcc at louisianacontestclub.org<http://mc/compose?to=lcc@louisianacontestclub.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [LCC] low band antenna experience
>
>
>
> *Maybe you could gain by the use of Elecraft K3's....*
>
>
>
>
>
> *The reviews state.... *
>
> *There is no transceiver in the amateur marketplace that has the close-in
> dynamic range performance of the K3 with narrow roofing filters installed,
> and most aren’t close to the K3.*
>
> *Also noted was.*
>
> *Radios used at last weeks WRTC2010 competition:*
>
> *"lists that Scott Robbins,
> the Ex-Product Manager of the Ten Tec Orion transceiver
> product line, brought with him, for his personal use...
>
> ...An Elecraft K3!
>
> That's like Col. Sanders going to Chick-Fil-A for lunch!  Or
> Papa John ordering Pizza Hut for Dinner!
>
> And, contesting Jedi and CQ WW Champion Multi Multi station
> owner Tim Duffy, who operates the defacto "NASCAR Factory
> Team" for Icom (complete with "Team ICOM" uniforms), and who
> apears in advertisements touting the superior performance of
> the Icom 7XXX line of transceivers, brought with him for his
> personal use...
>
> ...An Elecraft K3!
>
> That's like Dale Earnhardt bringing a Toyota Camry to drive
> in the Daytona 500!
>
> The list is sort of like discovering that Bill Gates uses
> an Apple Mac Book running OS/X to do Microsoft presentations
> with!
>
> Now, we all know that the invitees to this party could
> afford to bring *anything* they wanted to bring.  Im also
> sure that any rig manufacturer would have been happy to
> supply them with anything they wanted, just for the
> asking...
>
> But they both showed up with K3's.  So did most of the
> competitors!
>
> Why?"....*
>
> * *
>
> *Doesn't take much thought,*
>
> * *
>
> *Keith, K5ENS*
>
>
>
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